Glass panels now available from Robinson factory
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Cherminator
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Glass panels now available from Robinson factory

02-08-2014 08:31:32

It looks like Robinson has finally embraced technology and is now offering glass panel options in their new helis. They're listed under "Optional Avionics & Instrument Prices" on their website.
http://robinsonheli.com/price_lists_eocs/optional_avionics_pricelist.pdf

See pics here:
http://www.robinsonhelicopters.org/index.php?option=com_rsgallery2&gid=10&Itemid=55

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R44inCincy
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02-08-2014 12:23:20
Wow, that 8 hole panel is quite a change. Looks like the G500H panel. Have to see that in person.

The GMA350H is great if you haven't demo'd it.
Cherminator
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02-09-2014 11:30:47
I have the Garmin GTN750 with a hidden audio panel and transponder that tie right into the GTN750 so I can control everything with the one screen. It's a very nice setup but it doesn't look like Robinson is offering those options at this time.

I'm also disappointed that there is no mention of a TCAS option.
R44inCincy
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04-21-2014 05:21:32
Wow, thanks for the PIREP. That's pretty disappointing, but I guess I'm not surprised. Seems to be the new model - release an avionics package that is 70% complete, then try to add to it.

Is the Aspen PFD the new VFR-only model, and that's why it's limited? Or is it the PFD Pro and the features just aren't done yet?
eclise
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04-21-2014 06:05:45
Buyer beware of new R66 Avionics!

I am in the queue to take delivery of a new R66 with the Aspen PFD and the MFD and the Garmin 750. What I am finding is that some of the expected features of these wonderful avionics are not certified for Robinson. The factory is very quiet about these omissions, and I have to say it has been incredibly difficult to uncover this info.

So far I've discovered that the Synthetic Vision and ADS-B traffic info are not supported in the Aspen displays. I was dreaming of 3-D referenced traffic overlaid on my synthetic vision like my fixed wing buddies get on their Aspen systems, but no, not certified, not happening. Second, you love some of those neat features on the Garmin GMA 350H. Forget about it, not certified, not happening. What features? Well auto recorded clearance playback, nope. How about those voice commands for controlling the panel hands free, not supported.

Robinson blames the FAA for not certifying features in the helicopter that are certified for planes and apparently Aspen doesn't have their Synthetic Vision product working for helicopters yet. Okay...so it's not Robinson's fault. They will tell as much if you manage to uncover these feature omissions. They certainly won't offer to tell you unless you ask. My gripe; where the hell is their corporate integrity? They certainly aren't discounting any of these feature-crippled products they are selling, and they are not disclosing the missing features. That is crap...excuse me, that is corporate malfeasance. Robinson Helicopter Company, I understand there may be reasons these features are missing, but there is NO EXCUSE for nondisclosure. None. Tell people what they are buying! Garmin's Web site list the features for the GMA 350H, Robinson lists the product. Nowhere do they acknowledge the missing features.

This is my 3rd Robinson, I am mostly a fan of the company, but this makes me think twice about their integrity as a company.
eclise
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04-21-2014 10:38:37
My understanding is that it is the PDF Pro. As you can imagine, the Synthetic Vision screen draw requirements for a helicopter place a much larger load on the processor than for a fixed wing environment. I don't believe the software or hardware is up to the task in it's current form. Aspen is on record as "working" on it. Perhaps a field software and hardware upgrade will be available in 2016. My understanding is that nothing is particularly close. The Garmin GTX330 ADS-B feed is also not completely compatible with non-Garmin equipment and that is why ADS-B traffic is not available on the Aspen gear. I'm told they are working on this as well.
eclise
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04-22-2014 02:08:52
R44bob
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04-23-2014 06:32:12
Get the "portable" Garmin 796 with GDL39 and their 330 transponder and you have ADS-B (traffic) in and out and weather at no cost. I have all this for around 10k and it works like a charm and pops out in a second..
Save a whole bunch of money and wait until the vendor markets a usable system.